[FC-discuss] [OT] new T-shirt.

Ringo Kamens 2600denver at gmail.com
Tue May 15 04:14:59 JST 2007


I think the shirt is really good as it is and shouldn't be changed.
Comrade Ringo Kamens

On 5/14/07, rek2GNU/Linux <rek2 at binaryfreedom.info> wrote:
> About the representation I happen to talk with the guy 1 year a go in
> Boston, he is living in the States now and I and the artist who made the
> t-shirt are long live activist,
> and not electronic activist but real live ones and we admire this guy
> and his xtreme believe for freedom.
>
> anyways, we already been selling the white version and we sold more tan
> 20 already, people loves it this is why the black one now.
>
>
> I guess is never people is never going to agree 100% if the glass of
> water is half full or half empty..  I don't expect less.
>
> but thanks for your opinion they are good points but I don't agree.
>
> Chris F.
>
> Fred Benenson wrote:
> > hrm, asheesh might have a point there. are the shirts already made? if
> > not, i'd suggest reworking it... the imagery of the tank vs. the child
> > isn't exactly as positive as you might think. that guy was thrown in
> > jail and possibly killed. it's a valiant, symbolic act, but kind of
> > futile. there's a good article in the new yorker from two weeks ago
> > about those politics that i recommend reading:
> > http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/04/23/070423fa_fact_zha
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/14/07, * rek2GNU/Linux* <rek2 at binaryfreedom.info
> > <mailto:rek2 at binaryfreedom.info>> wrote:
> >
> >     search google for the  Tianamen Square,
> >     when one student  faced  a tank to protest.
> >     We are the child, the tank is the enemy...
> >     you saw it backwards.
> >
> >
> >     Asheesh Laroia wrote:
> >     > On Mon, 14 May 2007, rek2 GNU/Linux LO LO LO wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >> http://digg.com/linux_unix/black_version_of_The_road_to_Freedom
> >     >>
> >     >> Hey by popular demand we created a new version of the t-shirt
> >     we had
> >     >> more sells but this time is black instead of white.
> >     >> take a look, if you can't buy it at least give it a digg.
> >     >>
> >     >
> >     > I'm confused -
> >     http://www.goodstorm.com/files/images/EF1B3892_34BC24B5.jpg
> >     > shows a tank as being labeled "DRM" and "Softare Patents" and
> >     the phrases,
> >     > "The road to freedom" and "technology made right for the right
> >     reasons".
> >     > I don't believe that the labels "DRM" and "Software patents" are
> >     my idea
> >     > of "the right reasons".
> >     >
> >     > (Image from
> >     >
> >     http://www.goodstorm.com/item/binaryfreedom/the_road_to_freedom_black
> >     ,
> >     > which is liked-to from the Digg URL you posted.)
> >     >
> >     > Maybe the tank should be shooting down DRM and software patents,
> >     but then
> >     > the only technology on the shirt would be the tank, and I don't
> >     really
> >     > think tanks are made for the right reasons" even without being
> >     labeled as
> >     > DRM.
> >     >
> >     > -- Asheesh.
> >     >
> >     >
> >
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