[FC-discuss] [FC-Discuss] Universities and free content

Elizabeth Stark estark at law.harvard.edu
Tue Oct 2 07:43:03 JST 2007


Yes certain high-up people have also indicated that they'd be
interested in a project like this.

I think it's important to communicate this to the chapters. I'll work
with Fred on cleaning up the "survey" and sending it out to chapters
more directly. Also, if people have contacts at other schools, no
reason why they can't also fill it out...

Once we get the PR, we should have a way for people to submit a survey
about their own school, even if they don't have a chapter yet.

On 10/1/07, Fred Benenson <fred.benenson at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, it's up, albeit sloppily:
>
>
> http://wiki.freeculture.org/Hit_List
>
> It needs a chart, but I'm too lazy to figure out how to do that right now...
>
> So just add schools, links, etc.
>
> This is where we should work on this now.
>
> Once we get the page looking good, with some good examples, etc. We should
> post to digg / boingboing / slashdot. It'll get a lot of good press.
>
>
> F
>
>
>
> On 10/1/07, Fred Benenson <fred.benenson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, good point -- eBook software "acceptance" is a good issue.
> >
> > Also
> >
> > #5) Blackboard v. Sakai v. Moodle vs. etc.
> > What kind of courseware? is it open access? etc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/1/07, Conor Schaefer <conor.schaefer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Great list! Regarding the fourth point, I'd say that it would behoove us
> to look into what kinds of electronic access the libraries use. For
> instance, I know some schools where PDFs of important articles are scanned
> and then hosted to anyone logged onto the campus network (or additionally
> via VPN). Other schools are much more locked down, mandating for instance
> proprietary eBook reading software. I've read a lot, as I'm sure you all
> have, about public libraries having the problem of satisfying the masses,
> meaning essentially that because people aren't clamoring for open access,
> they're not going to get it.
> > >
> > > Fred Benenson wrote:
> > >
> > > The only reason I'm currently "attributing" it to FC @ NYU is because
> I've brought up the hit list idea many many times on this list before and
> while people sounded excited, it didn't really get anywhere.
> > >
> > > However, at a recent FC @ NYU meeting I had many people agree to put in
> a couple hours to get the project done over the next semester or so, so I
> figured we'd just take the reigns and go from there.
> > >
> > > So I'm not in this for the attribution -- I just want to get it done,
> and now that there's renewed interest on the national level, I'm happy to
> head it up. I'm going to create a wiki entry on the FreeCulture.org wiki (FC
> @ NYU wiki's spam / content ratio was debilitating high so it's dead now)
> soon and post the link here.
> > >
> > > The big things we want to get clear about are:
> > >
> > > 1) Student copyright policy
> > >   What rights do students have to their work? Moreover, are they allowed
> to freely license it?
> > >
> > > 2) p2p filesharing policy
> > >    How willing is the university to play ball with RIAA's extortionist
> tactics? Do they readily give up student information, or ban the student
> from the network? 3 strikes? 1 strike? Do they offer services to students
> who are sued? What is the party line about the copious amounts of file
> sharing that is obviously going on on their campuses?
> > >
> > > 3) Privacy / Free Speech stuff
> > >   Is running Tor legal? Can you protest easily?
> > >
> > > 4) Open Access
> > >   How receptive are the librarians / academics to open access
> publishing? This is a hard thing to quantify, but perhaps you guys have some
> better ideas.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, will get this up soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > F
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/1/07, Conor Schaefer <conor.schaefer at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Interesting: such a move would shift the focus of the citation aspect
> of most free licenses away from FC at NYU and more onto FC.org in general, no?
> I'm neither disapproving of this myself, nor implying that Fred might do
> so... I just find it an intriguing issue, given the content of this
> listserv!
> > > >
> > > > Of course it could be hosted on FC.org and still credited to FC at NYU,
> but wikiship means authorship would be a tricky business.
> > > >
> > > > Just enjoying the game, my friends....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Asheesh Laroia wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Fred Benenson wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, but couching it with enough context is what makes an even
> bigger
> > > > splash.
> > > >
> > > > It's also a matter of timing on our side -- we have a lot of events
> this
> > > > semester so we have to use our time wisely together.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We'll probably be picking universities in the next week or two ...
> > > >
> > > > In the time before it's "released", I urge you to work on it in some
> > > > collaborative medium like a wiki. I would think it's okay if that work
> > > > happens in public, since you can "publish" a version independent of
> the
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > wiki and call that the first published version.
> > > >
> > > > -- Asheesh.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, wake
> him up.
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