[FC-discuss] FreeCulture.org is now Students for Free Culture

[Fred Benenson]

Yes, it's a shame that some people can't find value in campus organizing as
there's surely precedent.

Crosbie: why not consider an organization such as iCommons which has much
broader goals and membership?

F


On 10/2/07, Thomas (TJ) Olsen <tj at tjolsen.net> wrote:
>
> absolutely disagree--students and academia in this country and globally
> have a long history of great activism and creative output
>
> tj
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Crosbie Fitch" <crosbie at cyberspaceengineers.org>
> To: "'Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization
> inparticular'" <discuss at freeculture.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] FreeCulture.org is now Students for Free Culture
>
>
> >I would have thought "Artists for Free Culture" would have been better.
> >
> > Or even "Free Citizens for Free Culture"
> >
> > I would suspect that the popular conception of a student is a passive
> > receptacles for knowledge, only expected to start doing anything
> > significantly productive/creative until after they've ceased being a
> > student.
> >
> > The last thing a passive receptacle needs is the freedom to publish
> copies
> > or derivatives. People will assume students are just after broader
> > educational exemptions for using the library photocopier.
> >
> > So 'Students for Free Culture' comes across as if it was "Couch Potatoes
> > for
> > Free Culture".
> >
> > At worst "Students can't afford much, so we should get the world's
> culture
> > free of charge. Thanks."
> >
> > The best light it can be put in is "Typically militant students having
> the
> > luxury of being able to agitate against cultural oppression of the
> masses"
> >
> > What's so special about a student?
> >
> > That's what I want to know.
> >
> > If you say 'many people showed up who were not aware that we were a
> > student
> > organization', perhaps instead of concluding that you need to strengthen
> > the
> > student angle, you could have concluded that you should ditch the
> student
> > angle (even if students do constitute the key demographic most able to
> > perceive the corruption in copyright and patent).
> >
> > The last thing a body that champions cultural freedom should be is
> > exclusive.
> >
> > If only FreeCulture.org was now 'Everyone for Free Culture'
> >
> > "We found people were confused when we said it was a student
> organisation,
> > so we've stopped saying that. We now just say it's an open and
> egalitarian
> > organisation that welcomes everyone interested in promoting cultural
> > freedom"
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