[FC-discuss] FreeCulture.org is now Students for Free Culture

[Elizabeth Stark]

We've actually worked quite successfully in Boston *with* students and
in universities as well as *beyond* academia. While it probably makes
sense at this point to be primarily university chapter-focused, I
don't see why others can't get involved. I'd like to define "student"
as broadly as possible -- essentially, anyone with a willingness to
learn.

-E

On 10/2/07, Fred Benenson <fred.benenson at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, it's a shame that some people can't find value in campus organizing as
> there's surely precedent.
>
> Crosbie: why not consider an organization such as iCommons which has much
> broader goals and membership?
>
> F
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> On 10/2/07, Thomas (TJ) Olsen <tj at tjolsen.net> wrote:
> > absolutely disagree--students and academia in this country and globally
> > have a long history of great activism and creative output
> >
> > tj
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Crosbie Fitch" < crosbie at cyberspaceengineers.org>
> > To: "'Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization
> > inparticular'" <discuss at freeculture.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 6:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] FreeCulture.org is now Students for Free Culture
> >
> >
> > >I would have thought "Artists for Free Culture" would have been better.
> > >
> > > Or even "Free Citizens for Free Culture"
> > >
> > > I would suspect that the popular conception of a student is a passive
> > > receptacles for knowledge, only expected to start doing anything
> > > significantly productive/creative until after they've ceased being a
> > > student.
> > >
> > > The last thing a passive receptacle needs is the freedom to publish
> copies
> > > or derivatives. People will assume students are just after broader
> > > educational exemptions for using the library photocopier.
> > >
> > > So 'Students for Free Culture' comes across as if it was "Couch Potatoes
> > > for
> > > Free Culture".
> > >
> > > At worst "Students can't afford much, so we should get the world's
> culture
> > > free of charge. Thanks."
> > >
> > > The best light it can be put in is "Typically militant students having
> the
> > > luxury of being able to agitate against cultural oppression of the
> masses"
> > >
> > > What's so special about a student?
> > >
> > > That's what I want to know.
> > >
> > > If you say 'many people showed up who were not aware that we were a
> > > student
> > > organization', perhaps instead of concluding that you need to strengthen
> > > the
> > > student angle, you could have concluded that you should ditch the
> student
> > > angle (even if students do constitute the key demographic most able to
> > > perceive the corruption in copyright and patent).
> > >
> > > The last thing a body that champions cultural freedom should be is
> > > exclusive.
> > >
> > > If only FreeCulture.org was now 'Everyone for Free Culture'
> > >
> > > "We found people were confused when we said it was a student
> organisation,
> > > so we've stopped saying that. We now just say it's an open and
> egalitarian
> > > organisation that welcomes everyone interested in promoting cultural
> > > freedom"
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