[FC-discuss] House passes COAA with p2p provisions intact

[Elizabeth Stark]

Don't forget the statement that we drafted:

http://freeculture.org/education-law/freeculture_hr4137_hr3746_response.html(statement)

http://freeculture.org/blog/2007/12/14/students-open-response-to-hr-4137-and-hr/(blog
post about it)

I think we could do some work raising awareness on campuses where EDUCAUSE
hasn't necessarily done so, and getting people to sign on to the statement.

On Feb 8, 2008 2:59 AM, Fred Benenson <fred.benenson at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's the scary part -- its really hard to figure out how effective it
> will be -- everyone in DC is saying that the law doesn't actually mandate
> this, it just suggests exploring it.
>
> That's not to say FC will be any better if the law gets passed. Its
> certainly a bad thing if it gets passed, but we really have no pull here.
>
> FC @ NYU has compiled a list of districts here:
> http://www.freeculturenyu.org/congressional-districts-for-hr-4137/
>
> of reps who are voting on this issue (The Higher Ed committee) but we now
> need to mobilize for Senators.
>
> EDUCAUSE is tackling the issue and doing good PR for it. I'm not sure
> we're going to beat them on it. NYU's Washington Square News is running a
> story on Monday or Tuesday that I've spent extensive time briefing a
> reporter with.
>
> Gavin, what other vectors do you have in mind?
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2008 11:51 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > See, the thing is, as it says in the article, the staffers keep claiming
> > that it will have NO effect on financial aid. Does anyone have more insight
> > on this?
> >
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2008 2:50 AM, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com> wrote:
> >
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> > > Actions that will generate mainstream media coverage -- with the
> > > emphasis on how this will deny financial aid to students who committed
> > > no crime.
> > >
> > > Most of the coverage of this has been in industry media (technology
> > > and
> > > academic circles). Clearly the insider organizing hasn't been enough
> > > --
> > > we need parents calling to ask why they're going to take their kid's
> > > student aid away.
> > >
> > > Oh, and why isn't there MASSIVE organizing on Facebook and MySpace
> > > against this?
> > >
> > > (Aside: I've been absolutely dismayed by the ineffectual nature of the
> > > organizing in this issue. The coalition against this trash is, sadly,
> > > neither big enough nor loud enough. Changing that has to be one of the
> > > top policy priorities for SFC and others who care about this. Even if
> > > this never touches the Senate floor, it makes us look weak to have let
> > > this run so far.)
> > >
> > > Fred Benenson wrote:
> > > | I've been organizing call-a-thons for a while.
> > > |
> > > | It looks like it needs to make it through the Senate next.
> > > |
> > > | Aside from making more phone calls, what do you think we should do?
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | On Feb 7, 2008 10:51 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark at gmail.com
> > > | <mailto:emstark at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > |
> > > |     Shall we try to coordinate action on this?
> > > |
> > > |     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > |     From: *Arian Shahdadi* <ashahdadi at law.harvard.edu
> > >  |     <mailto:ashahdadi at law.harvard.edu>>
> > > |     Date: Feb 8, 2008 1:36 AM
> > > |     Subject: [fc-d] House passes COAA
> > > |     To: Freeculture List <freeculture-discuss at hcs.harvard.edu
> > > |     <mailto:freeculture-discuss at hcs.harvard.edu>>
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |     See
> > > |
> > >
> > > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080207-controversial-college-funding-bill-passedp2p-proviso-intact.html
> > > ;
> > > |     it passed by a WIDE margin with no change to the P2P provision.
> > > |
> > > |
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> > > In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything
> > > false about hope.
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