[FC-discuss] House passes COAA with p2p provisions intact

[Conor Schaefer]

This issue does need to blow up, yes, but I really don't think it's
likely that the media will find "something for everyone" in this story.
In my mind, the media sees that p2p = piracy, which is bad and wrong and
shouldn't ever be defended. Elizabeth recently had to write a letter to
correct a similar bias, though I may be remembering the incident
incorrectly (apologies if so).

I agree that it's the parents who have to make a ruckus on this one, but
the question is how many we can education in a relatively short timeframe.

I'm not at all trying to discourage organization and mobilization on
this issue, I'm just trying to carefully identify the factors I view as
most problematic, so they can be dealt with. I'm glad this was brought
up here.

Gavin Baker wrote:
> Fred Benenson wrote:
> | That's the scary part -- its really hard to figure out how effective it
> | will be -- everyone in DC is saying that the law doesn't actually
> | mandate this, it just suggests exploring it.
> |
> | That's not to say FC will be any better if the law gets passed. Its
> | certainly a bad thing if it gets passed, but we really have no pull
> here.
> |
> | FC @ NYU has compiled a list of districts here:
> | http://www.freeculturenyu.org/congressional-districts-for-hr-4137/
> |
> | of reps who are voting on this issue (The Higher Ed committee) but we
> | now need to mobilize for Senators.
> |
> | EDUCAUSE is tackling the issue and doing good PR for it. I'm not sure
> | we're going to beat them on it. NYU's Washington Square News is running
> | a story on Monday or Tuesday that I've spent extensive time briefing a
> | reporter with.
> |
> | Gavin, what other vectors do you have in mind?
>
> This issue just needs to blow up. Absolutely explode, all over the
> media. It has all the makings of an issue that everybody can get into --
> "they're taking your kid's financial aid away".
>
> Everybody who can organize against this should do so, but basically we
> lose this one (at least in terms of appearances) unless it blows up.
> This has passed the House -- whether or not it makes it into law in this
> session of Congress, that's a super invitation to reintroduce it (and
> *worse* legislation) in the future, and keep pushing for it. The only
> way this will die is with a stake through the heart: thousands of
> mothers calling their Congressman screaming.
>
> | On Feb 7, 2008 11:51 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark at gmail.com
> | <mailto:emstark at gmail.com>> wrote:
> |
> |     See, the thing is, as it says in the article, the staffers keep
> |     claiming that it will have NO effect on financial aid. Does anyone
> |     have more insight on this?
> |
> |
> |     On Feb 8, 2008 2:50 AM, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com
> |     <mailto:gavin at gavinbaker.com>> wrote:
> |
> | Actions that will generate mainstream media coverage -- with the
> | emphasis on how this will deny financial aid to students who
> | committed
> | no crime.
> |
> | Most of the coverage of this has been in industry media
> | (technology and
> | academic circles). Clearly the insider organizing hasn't been
> | enough --
> | we need parents calling to ask why they're going to take their kid's
> | student aid away.
> |
> | Oh, and why isn't there MASSIVE organizing on Facebook and MySpace
> | against this?
> |
> | (Aside: I've been absolutely dismayed by the ineffectual nature
> | of the
> | organizing in this issue. The coalition against this trash is,
> | sadly,
> | neither big enough nor loud enough. Changing that has to be one
> | of the
> | top policy priorities for SFC and others who care about this.
> | Even if
> | this never touches the Senate floor, it makes us look weak to
> | have let
> | this run so far.)
> |
> | Fred Benenson wrote:
> | | I've been organizing call-a-thons for a while.
> | |
> | | It looks like it needs to make it through the Senate next.
> | |
> | | Aside from making more phone calls, what do you think we
> | should do?
> | |
> | |
> | | On Feb 7, 2008 10:51 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark at gmail.com
> | <mailto:emstark at gmail.com>
> | | <mailto:emstark at gmail.com <mailto:emstark at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> | |
> | |     Shall we try to coordinate action on this?
> | |
> | |     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> | |     From: *Arian Shahdadi* <ashahdadi at law.harvard.edu
> | <mailto:ashahdadi at law.harvard.edu>
> | |     <mailto:ashahdadi at law.harvard.edu
> | <mailto:ashahdadi at law.harvard.edu>>>
> | |     Date: Feb 8, 2008 1:36 AM
> | |     Subject: [fc-d] House passes COAA
> | |     To: Freeculture List <freeculture-discuss at hcs.harvard.edu
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> | |     <mailto:freeculture-discuss at hcs.harvard.edu
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> | |
> | |
> | |     See
> | |
> |
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080207-controversial-college-funding-bill-passedp2p-proviso-intact.html;
> | |     it passed by a WIDE margin with no change to the P2P
> | provision.
> | |
> | |
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