[FC-discuss] House passes COAA with p2p provisions intact

[Christina Xu]

There's something very compelling to be said about universities maintaining
their autonomy, as well--there are definitely alarming similarities to that
military recruitment clause embedded in the No Child Left Behind act. If we
phrase this as student/university's rights vs. private interest of *AA, then
I think we have a pretty compelling argument.

On Feb 10, 2008 3:25 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com> wrote:

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> Matthew J. Agnello wrote:
> |> I'm not at all trying to discourage organization and mobilization on
> |> this issue, I'm just trying to carefully identify the factors I view as
> |> most problematic, so they can be dealt with. I'm glad this was brought
> |> up here.
> |
> | I tried explaining the problem to my mom. It's not an easy thing for
> | adults to swallow. But they do identify with the prospect of losing
> | federal funding for something morally questionable.
> |
> | So there are a couple things that any campaign around this issue need to
> | address: 1) Establish spying on students as morally questionable, 2)
> | separate the p2p issue from piracy, and 3) tie refusal to spy to losing
> | federal funding.
>
> I would think the easy way to explain this is, "Special interests want
> Congress to force universities to spy on students and play copyright
> cops, at risk of losing student aid. If a school didn't play along, the
> whole SCHOOL could lose financial aid, regardless of the individual
> actions of the students."
>
> Forget about explaining non-infringing uses blah blah.. Go for the gut.
> That's exactly what this provision is designed to do, and we have to
> treat it that way.
>
> Innocent students could lose their financial aid -- their ticket to a
> good career and a better life. That's no way to run educational policy.
>
> | If a university shows some moral integrity and refuses
> | to implement filtering/spying tech, they lose federal funding. These two
> | have to be tied together as strongly as possible in people's minds. As a
> | privacy issue and a piracy issue, it's questionable what to support. But
> | when passing this bill means a tuition hike, which means YOU are paying
> | to catch a couple bad kids (MPAA stats are a lot lower than they used to
> | be now)[1], people are more likely to look beyond the philosophical
> | question of privacy and piracy, which are weaker arguments than the
> | government punishing universities that stick up for their students.
> |
> | Best,
> | // Matt
> |
> | [1]
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080122-oops-mpaa-admits-college-piracy-numbers-grossly-inflated.html
> |
> |
> | ----------
> | *Matt Agnello*
> | http://www.hungryfilmmaker.com
> | < matt.agnello at gmail.com <mailto:matt.agnello at gmail.com> >
> |
> |
> |
> | On Feb 10, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Conor Schaefer wrote:
> |
> |> I'm not at all trying to discourage organization and mobilization on
> |> this issue, I'm just trying to carefully identify the factors I view as
> |> most problematic, so they can be dealt with. I'm glad this was brought
> |> up here.
> |
> |
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