[FC-discuss] Liberating the FC list
Kevin Driscoll
driscollkevin at gmail.com
Wed Jul 30 17:56:23 EDT 2008
I took one primary conclusion from the IRC chat: we need an FC-Discuss
FAQ to redirect redundant conversation.
http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss/FAQ
Obvi this is a stub. Feel free to add to this page as you see fit.
Ciao,
Kevin
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Jay Sulzberger <jays at panix.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Brian Rowe <brian at freedomforip.org> wrote:
>
>> During the chapter meeting this Sunday it was mentioned that we should not
>> take some issues to the general discussion list because it is "too
>> polarizing." The Free Culture mailing list has has transformed over the
>> past 2 years from a place where FC ideas could be discussed freely to a
>> forum where people do not speak up for fear of flaming. This is a call to
>> return the list to a place where topics can be discussed without flames.
>>
>> I am asking three things:
>> 1. Threads stay on topic - no more turning a video awards posts into NC
>> freedom posts or FF3 posts into whining about the bylaws.
>> 2. General whining needs to stop
>> 3. Flaming needs to stop
>>
>> Transparent moderation may be needed to accomplish this.
>>
>> This means that people who are here to argue and complain constantly should
>> find another place to do that. I am not just speaking in generalities;
>> Crosbie has done the most whining, flaming and off topic ranting over the
>> last year. I think he should seriously reconsider his goals and move on.
>> FC should consider banning him from the list if his presence continues to
>> discourage friendly academic and activist discussion.
>>
>> I am not a board member, a founder or a core team member. I am general
>> member, a chapter founder, and a FC activist. I want to be part of a
>> grassroots community where we can work together to win the free culture
>> fight. The first step is reclaiming the FC list.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Brian Rowe
>
> There are discussion lists and action lists. A discussion list
> is not an action list. FC should keep this discussion list, and
> for each action start a separate action list. Actions, in most
> cases, are directed by a small team of organizers. The team
> manages the action list.
>
> Moderation cannot transform a discussion list into an action
> list. FC needs at least one general discussion list and, for
> each action, a separate well managed action list.
>
> Actions can, will, and should be, discussed on discussion lists.
> But discussion is not decision, and conversation on a discussion
> list cannot be all of the deliberation and organizing an
> effective action requires.
>
> oo--JS.
>
>
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