[FC-discuss] Get Satisfaction and open source?
Dean Jansen
dean at pculture.org
Wed Jul 30 21:03:23 EDT 2008
Hi everyone, sorry for my silence on the issue, thus far.
It's not so much that I want to open every service that I use, or that I
>> refuse to use proprietary services... Rather, if I have a choice between
>> a fully-featured open source service and a prettier/trendier service
>> with no "killer app" features that differentiate it, I will choose the
>> FOSS project. I don't see why Get Satisfaction is so much better than
>> the open source forum software Miro was using before, or why we couldn't
>> build something as good as Get Satisfaction. I think that Identi.ca has
>> stated loud and clear that we can build open source, decentralized
>> projects that have the capability of someday trouncing proprietary
>> services like Twitter. I was using Twitter on and off but I am now an
>> Identi.ca convert, and I hope that everyone will join me not only on
>> Identi.ca but on future open source, decentralized services sure to
>> eventually follow.
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Nelson,
We tried using both PHPBB and Vanilla (both FOSS), and while GS doesn't have
a single "killer feature" that makes it a superior customer support
platform, it's all around better for accomplishing our customer support
goals. It has more active searching and tagging, a better system for
categorizing questions and ideas, and it's *far* easier to see where lots
of people are experiencing the same issue (or love the same idea or
feature). I am all in favor of an open source competitor that can match or
beat this feature-set, but after having tried a few of them I can safely say
they didn't in this particular case.
I left a more official response here:
http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2008/07/new-forums/#comment-49463
Best,
Dean
Disclaimer: in case anyone isn't aware, I'm an employee of the Participatory
Culture Foundation, developers of Miro
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>>
>> I am not troubled by the existence of Get Satisfaction, or its use, but
>> by the abandonment of open source options for it. People should be
>> switching the other way! It is time to examine why open source projects
>> are abandoning open source support forums, replicate Get Satisfaction's
>> features in an open+decentralized model, and then if they cannot keep up
>> with the open/decentralized version, leave them in the dust.
>>
>> Peace,
>> ~Nelson~
>>
>> Fred Benenson wrote:
>> > Yeah, I'm not totally convinced of the need to open EVERY service that I
>> > use. I think data portability is really the paramount issue, an issue GS
>> > doesn't seem that likely to abuse -- I suppose a "database" of questions
>> and
>> > answers could be downloadable in a format to be used in other contexts,
>> but
>> > its just text.
>> >
>> > And I'm wary of turning SFC into a software freedom project first and a
>> > functional organization that responds to feedback via a cool service
>> like
>> > GS, second.
>> >
>> > F
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Stephen Paul Weber <
>> > singpolyma at singpolyma.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>> Recently a number of open source projects including the Mozilla
>> >>> Foundation, Songbird, and Miro have switched to using a customer
>> support
>> >>> service called Get Satisfaction. Get Satisfaction's core code is
>> >>> largely proprietary software.
>> >>>
>> >>> How much of a problem is it for open source projects to use a
>> >>> proprietary customer support system?
>> >>>
>> >> Beyond the idealist concept that all software should be opensource,
>> >> how is this an issue at all? GS is a good service that does its job
>> >> well and has a great team behind it. I see no reason not to support
>> >> their service. Very few web services are open source - we applaud
>> >> those that are, but we don't boycott those that aren't.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> - Stephen Paul Weber (Singpolyma)
>> >>
>> >> Web: http://singpolyma.net/
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>> >> IM: singpolyma at gmail.com
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