[FC-discuss] Liberating the FC list

Thu Jul 31 01:07:16 EDT 2008

Yeh, we are essentially using mass emailing as sort of a pseudo message board, and I just get tired of having to check my email every two seconds to see who else has responded, message boards are way more convenient. 

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:02:45 -0500
From: kdonovan11 at gmail.com
To: discuss at freeculture.org
Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] Liberating the FC list

I like email, but would definitely use a discussion board, as well. 

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Fred Benenson <fred.benenson at gmail.com> wrote:

We'll consider it, but for now -- e-mail is the most convenient, and least incompatible as any other medium.

If you don't like the volume, feel free to create a filter or use an application service that supports threading.

F

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Nini last name <bathroomreader3 at hotmail.com> wrote:

For Bog's sake, we need a frickin message board, I get so tired of having to open up my fucking email every two seconds, can we has a message board pretty please?

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:37:20 -0400
From: alexleavitt at gmail.com

To: discuss at freeculture.org
Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] Liberating the FC list

Today seems to be a great time to have joined the list. 

To what degree is the trolling really occurring?

The phrase common sense pops up everywhere in Free Culture. I don't believe a list necessitates moderation. Just follow Tim's Rule #6: "Don't be an asshat." Simple and easy.

Alex
Alexander Leavitt
Boston University '09
http://www.alexleavitt.com

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Fred Benenson <fred.benenson at gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, I'm totally lost on this back and forth too. 

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Nini last name <bathroomreader3 at hotmail.com> wrote:

Wait...what are we talking about?

> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:25:45 -0500
> From: creighto at spunge.org
> To: discuss at freeculture.org

> Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] Liberating the FC list
> 
> > Creighton Samuels wrote:
> >> I think you have missed my point.  It is a choice that the list

> >> membership *can* make, individually, without affecting the list
> >> membership in any other fashion.  If *he* annoys you, killfile him and
> >> he will cease to exist for you.  If he annoys everyone, he will cease to

> >> exist entirely.  No rules, committees, or offensive actions required.
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification.
> >
> 
> 
> I think that I'm still being misunderstood...

> 
> 
> > I hope that people have been doing what you suggest thus far with people
> > they don't want to read. I assume that is how most mailing lists are
> > read.  Read what you want, don't read what you don't want.

> >
> > I think some people felt they weren't able to be effective members of
> > the mailing list by not reading entire weeks of email (which is what
> > would happen if people killfiled certain topics).

> >
> 
> I'm not talking about actively filtering groups of posts by subject
> header, every email client has a file for which any post that arrives from
> an email address listed is automaticly deleted, no operator input

> required.  Every email list I have ever been on (I average about 250-300
> emails received daily) forwards the sender's address, in part, for proper
> killfile operation.  Any post from a disruptive individual listed in the

> killfile will never be seen in any fashion by the reader, regardless of
> topic.
> 
> > So yeah, I agree that ideally people should just ignore what they don't
> > want to read.  But, I also see how some people feel it has gotten out of

> > hand (certain discussions at least).
> >
> > Anyways, I think we agree in principle, I just might be more willing to
> > have groups set group specific guidelines.  It is a trade-off though,

> > certainly.  And I don't profess know how to handle the situation in the
> > *best* fashion.
> >
> 
> 
> I think we are not far off, and I'm not opposed to "guidelines" in any

> case, provided that they are not rigid.  It's just the part about
> "enforcement" of guidelines that I am warning against.  Personally, it's
> not likely to affect me either way, as generally I'm a passive lurker

> anyway.
> 
> Creighton
> 
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