[FC-discuss] "Scientific publishers get a law introduced to end free publication of govt-funded research"
Nelson Pavlosky
nelson at freeculture.org
Sat Feb 28 11:04:44 EST 2009
According to the Alliance for Taxpayer Access, the first thing we
should do is take action and contact our Representatives TODAY!
http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/HR801-09-0211.html
I'm honestly not sure why the deadline is today, but I'm sure there is
a good reason related to the legislative process.
~Nelson~
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Adi Kamdar <adikamdar at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not too knowledgeable about how Congress works, but I do know that the
> bill was only just introduced and has been referred to the House Committee
> on the Judiciary.
>
> Funny thing is that Conyers is the current chairman of the Head Committee on
> the Judiciary. Hmm.
>
> But basically the bill still has to go to Subcommittee (although, maybe not,
> since it's IP related), the full Committee, then the Rules Committee, then
> it's debated and voted on by the full House. etc. etc. (See: Schoolhouse
> Rock)
>
> Here's an article by James Boyle about this... worth a read/laugh.
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a110fa6-0219-11de-8199-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
>
> As far as action, letters seem to be a good start--both to Conyers and to
> school newspapers. I... am not sure what else.
> -Adi
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Kevin Donovan <kdonovan11 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I don't know what that coordinated action would look like, but I do think
>> it should have some sort of real-world manifestation - mass mailings to
>> Conyers or something.
>>
>> But before we do that, does anyone who understands how Congress works have
>> info on where this bill stands?
>>
>> From speaking with Georgetown's head of federal relations, it seems like
>> this isn't that far along. But it would help to understand what choke points
>> we should target...
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely. I'm also thinking of some kind of coordinated action across
>>> FC chapters, and/or site to coordinate action across the web. What else is
>>> out there so far?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Kevin Donovan <kdonovan11 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A very easy thing to do is inform other university community members
>>>> about this. I wrote an OpEd for the Georgetown newspaper. Feel free to
>>>> re-appropriate it: http://thehoya.com/node/18112
>>>>
>>>> And get in touch with the librarians. They are great on this issue.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The place to start for ideas:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.righttoresearch.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Rowe wrote:
>>>>> > This would be a large step backwards for OA. I am in for what ever
>>>>> > we
>>>>> > want to do.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Here is a little more info on the finicing of the bill from Nathan
>>>>> > Georgette's Open Access Blog
>>>>> > <http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/following-money-on-hr801.html> :
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Two days ago, I issued an urgent call to action
>>>>> >
>>>>> > <http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/stand-for-open-access-oppose-hr801.html>
>>>>> > concerning HR801, re-introduced by Congressional Representative
>>>>> > John
>>>>> > Conyers (D-MI), which would essentially reverse the NIH Open
>>>>> > Access
>>>>> > policy. I have much respect for Representative Conyers,
>>>>> > especially
>>>>> > on his health care policies. Thus, I was greatly disturbed upon
>>>>> > hearing of this development.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I wanted to know why Conyers would do such a thing, and began
>>>>> > investigating the money trail on Conyers' campaign contributions
>>>>> > (thanks Alex for the idea!). What I came upon sank my heart.
>>>>> > According to Open Secrets
>>>>> >
>>>>> > <http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004029>,
>>>>> > Conyers' third single largest campaign contributor in 2008 was
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > American Intellectual Property Law Association
>>>>> > <http://www.aipla.org/> (AIPLA), whose "Key Bills of the 111th
>>>>> > Congress
>>>>> >
>>>>> > <http://www.aipla.org/Content/NavigationMenu/IP_Issues_and_Advocacy/Legislation1/111th_Congress/Key_Bills_of_the_111th/Key_Bills_of_the_111th.htm>"
>>>>> > include HR801. Surprised? Shouldn't be. Money talks, and big
>>>>> > money
>>>>> > talks that much louder.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I joined the AIPLA last year as a student and was very unimpressed
>>>>> > they
>>>>> > are on the ultra protectionist side of IP, I choose not to renew the
>>>>> > membership this year. They have been recruiting students and
>>>>> > professor
>>>>> > rather heavily over the last few years I am curious if we have any
>>>>> > active members of the AIPLA that are willing to speak out.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -Brian Rowe
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark at gmail.com
>>>>> > <mailto:emstark at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think we can do something kind of big here. Barbie in a Blender
>>>>> > style..
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Gavin Baker
>>>>> > <gavin at gavinbaker.com
>>>>> > <mailto:gavin at gavinbaker.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes, please get involved :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Need any help, holla at me!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Elizabeth Stark wrote:
>>>>> > > There's a great opportunity for us to get involved in
>>>>> > activism
>>>>> > against
>>>>> > > this bill, especially involving chapters. Ideas for how we
>>>>> > can
>>>>> > best do
>>>>> > > this?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I know Change Congress is looking to target it as well.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Rob Myers
>>>>> > <rob at robmyers.org
>>>>> > <mailto:rob at robmyers.org>
>>>>> > > <mailto:rob at robmyers.org <mailto:rob at robmyers.org>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/16/scientific-publisher.html
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > "Steve sez, "Currently, the National Institutes of
>>>>> > Health
>>>>> > require
>>>>> > > NIH-funded research to be published in open-access
>>>>> > repositories. In a
>>>>> > > cop to for-profit science publishers, Congressional
>>>>> > Representative
>>>>> > > John Conyers (D-MI) has re-introduced a bill (HR801)
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > essentially
>>>>> > > would negate the NIH policy concerning depositing
>>>>> > research
>>>>> > in OA
>>>>> > > repositories. The bill goes further than prohibiting
>>>>> > open
>>>>> > access
>>>>> > > requirements, however, as the bill also prohibits
>>>>> > government agencies
>>>>> > > from obtaining a license to publicly distribute,
>>>>> > perform,
>>>>> > or display
>>>>> > > such work by, for example, placing it on the Internet,
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > would
>>>>> > > repeal the longstanding 'federal purpose' doctrine,
>>>>> > under
>>>>> > which all
>>>>> > > federal agencies that fund the creation of a
>>>>> > copyrighted
>>>>> > work reserve
>>>>> > > the 'royalty-free, nonexclusive right to reproduce,
>>>>> > publish, or
>>>>> > > otherwise use the work' for any federal purpose. The
>>>>> > bill
>>>>> > is bad
>>>>> > > news." "
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>>>>> > Gavin Baker
>>>>> > http://www.gavinbaker.com/
>>>>> > gavin at gavinbaker.com <mailto:gavin at gavinbaker.com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No, I do not weep at the world -- I am too busy sharpening my
>>>>> > oyster knife.
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Brian Rowe
>>>>> > 3L Seattle University
>>>>> > (206) 335-8577 (Cell)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Access To Justice Technology Principles
>>>>> > www.ATJWeb.org <http://www.ATJWeb.org>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Freedom for IP
>>>>> > www.FreedomforIP.org <http://www.FreedomforIP.org>
>>>>> >
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>>>>> >
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