[FC-discuss] "Scientific publishers get a law introduced to end free publication of govt-funded research"
Adi Kamdar
adikamdar at gmail.com
Sat Feb 28 12:28:39 EST 2009
If we don't live in any of the Representatives' constituencies, what's the
best course of action? Contact our *own* representative? Will that have much
of an effect?
-Adi
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Nelson Pavlosky <nelson at freeculture.org>wrote:
> According to the Alliance for Taxpayer Access, the first thing we
> should do is take action and contact our Representatives TODAY!
>
> http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/HR801-09-0211.html
>
> I'm honestly not sure why the deadline is today, but I'm sure there is
> a good reason related to the legislative process.
>
> ~Nelson~
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Adi Kamdar <adikamdar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm not too knowledgeable about how Congress works, but I do know that
> the
> > bill was only just introduced and has been referred to the House
> Committee
> > on the Judiciary.
> >
> > Funny thing is that Conyers is the current chairman of the Head Committee
> on
> > the Judiciary. Hmm.
> >
> > But basically the bill still has to go to Subcommittee (although, maybe
> not,
> > since it's IP related), the full Committee, then the Rules Committee,
> then
> > it's debated and voted on by the full House. etc. etc. (See: Schoolhouse
> > Rock)
> >
> > Here's an article by James Boyle about this... worth a read/laugh.
> >
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a110fa6-0219-11de-8199-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
> >
> > As far as action, letters seem to be a good start--both to Conyers and to
> > school newspapers. I... am not sure what else.
> > -Adi
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Kevin Donovan <kdonovan11 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know what that coordinated action would look like, but I do
> think
> >> it should have some sort of real-world manifestation - mass mailings to
> >> Conyers or something.
> >>
> >> But before we do that, does anyone who understands how Congress works
> have
> >> info on where this bill stands?
> >>
> >> From speaking with Georgetown's head of federal relations, it seems like
> >> this isn't that far along. But it would help to understand what choke
> points
> >> we should target...
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Definitely. I'm also thinking of some kind of coordinated action across
> >>> FC chapters, and/or site to coordinate action across the web. What else
> is
> >>> out there so far?
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Kevin Donovan <kdonovan11 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> A very easy thing to do is inform other university community members
> >>>> about this. I wrote an OpEd for the Georgetown newspaper. Feel free to
> >>>> re-appropriate it: http://thehoya.com/node/18112
> >>>>
> >>>> And get in touch with the librarians. They are great on this issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The place to start for ideas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.righttoresearch.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brian Rowe wrote:
> >>>>> > This would be a large step backwards for OA. I am in for what ever
> >>>>> > we
> >>>>> > want to do.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Here is a little more info on the finicing of the bill from Nathan
> >>>>> > Georgette's Open Access Blog
> >>>>> > <http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/following-money-on-hr801.html>
> :
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Two days ago, I issued an urgent call to action
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > <
> http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/stand-for-open-access-oppose-hr801.html>
> >>>>> > concerning HR801, re-introduced by Congressional Representative
> >>>>> > John
> >>>>> > Conyers (D-MI), which would essentially reverse the NIH Open
> >>>>> > Access
> >>>>> > policy. I have much respect for Representative Conyers,
> >>>>> > especially
> >>>>> > on his health care policies. Thus, I was greatly disturbed upon
> >>>>> > hearing of this development.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I wanted to know why Conyers would do such a thing, and began
> >>>>> > investigating the money trail on Conyers' campaign
> contributions
> >>>>> > (thanks Alex for the idea!). What I came upon sank my heart.
> >>>>> > According to Open Secrets
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > <http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004029
> >,
> >>>>> > Conyers' third single largest campaign contributor in 2008 was
> >>>>> > the
> >>>>> > American Intellectual Property Law Association
> >>>>> > <http://www.aipla.org/> (AIPLA), whose "Key Bills of the 111th
> >>>>> > Congress
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > <
> http://www.aipla.org/Content/NavigationMenu/IP_Issues_and_Advocacy/Legislation1/111th_Congress/Key_Bills_of_the_111th/Key_Bills_of_the_111th.htm
> >"
> >>>>> > include HR801. Surprised? Shouldn't be. Money talks, and big
> >>>>> > money
> >>>>> > talks that much louder.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I joined the AIPLA last year as a student and was very unimpressed
> >>>>> > they
> >>>>> > are on the ultra protectionist side of IP, I choose not to renew
> the
> >>>>> > membership this year. They have been recruiting students and
> >>>>> > professor
> >>>>> > rather heavily over the last few years I am curious if we have any
> >>>>> > active members of the AIPLA that are willing to speak out.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > -Brian Rowe
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Elizabeth Stark <
> emstark at gmail.com
> >>>>> > <mailto:emstark at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I think we can do something kind of big here. Barbie in a
> Blender
> >>>>> > style..
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Gavin Baker
> >>>>> > <gavin at gavinbaker.com
> >>>>> > <mailto:gavin at gavinbaker.com>> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Yes, please get involved :)
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Need any help, holla at me!
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Elizabeth Stark wrote:
> >>>>> > > There's a great opportunity for us to get involved in
> >>>>> > activism
> >>>>> > against
> >>>>> > > this bill, especially involving chapters. Ideas for how
> we
> >>>>> > can
> >>>>> > best do
> >>>>> > > this?
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > I know Change Congress is looking to target it as well.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Rob Myers
> >>>>> > <rob at robmyers.org
> >>>>> > <mailto:rob at robmyers.org>
> >>>>> > > <mailto:rob at robmyers.org <mailto:rob at robmyers.org>>>
> wrote:
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/16/scientific-publisher.html
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > "Steve sez, "Currently, the National Institutes of
> >>>>> > Health
> >>>>> > require
> >>>>> > > NIH-funded research to be published in open-access
> >>>>> > repositories. In a
> >>>>> > > cop to for-profit science publishers, Congressional
> >>>>> > Representative
> >>>>> > > John Conyers (D-MI) has re-introduced a bill (HR801)
> >>>>> > that
> >>>>> > essentially
> >>>>> > > would negate the NIH policy concerning depositing
> >>>>> > research
> >>>>> > in OA
> >>>>> > > repositories. The bill goes further than prohibiting
> >>>>> > open
> >>>>> > access
> >>>>> > > requirements, however, as the bill also prohibits
> >>>>> > government agencies
> >>>>> > > from obtaining a license to publicly distribute,
> >>>>> > perform,
> >>>>> > or display
> >>>>> > > such work by, for example, placing it on the
> Internet,
> >>>>> > and
> >>>>> > would
> >>>>> > > repeal the longstanding 'federal purpose' doctrine,
> >>>>> > under
> >>>>> > which all
> >>>>> > > federal agencies that fund the creation of a
> >>>>> > copyrighted
> >>>>> > work reserve
> >>>>> > > the 'royalty-free, nonexclusive right to reproduce,
> >>>>> > publish, or
> >>>>> > > otherwise use the work' for any federal purpose. The
> >>>>> > bill
> >>>>> > is bad
> >>>>> > > news." "
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> >>>>> > --
> >>>>> > Gavin Baker
> >>>>> > http://www.gavinbaker.com/
> >>>>> > gavin at gavinbaker.com <mailto:gavin at gavinbaker.com>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > No, I do not weep at the world -- I am too busy sharpening
> my
> >>>>> > oyster knife.
> >>>>> > Zora Neale Hurston
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> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > --
> >>>>> > Brian Rowe
> >>>>> > 3L Seattle University
> >>>>> > (206) 335-8577 (Cell)
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Access To Justice Technology Principles
> >>>>> > www.ATJWeb.org <http://www.ATJWeb.org>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Freedom for IP
> >>>>> > www.FreedomforIP.org <http://www.FreedomforIP.org>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Seattle Human Rights Network
> >>>>> > www.SeattleHumanRightsNetwork.org
> >>>>> > <http://www.SeattleHumanRightsNetwork.org>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
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> >>>>> http://www.gavinbaker.com/
> >>>>> gavin at gavinbaker.com
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Kevin Donovan
> >>>> Georgetown '11: SFS
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