[FC-discuss] What really kills DRM in music?

[Kevin Driscoll]

Yes! Sorry for trolling all of you but I really wanted to hear some
raw thoughts on this. People on this list have been agitating against
DRM for a long time (Def by Des, in particular! *)

http://freeculturenews.com/2009/01/07/itunes-drops-drm/

Tell us more specific events you know of. Let's make a big list of
past anti-DRM activities.

Kevin

* Back in 06, I hung your images in my classroom and incorporated them
into a lesson about digital music sales.
http://flickr.com/photos/believekevin/259871655/





On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Conor Schaefer
<conor.schaefer at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree here. How does DRM benefit Apple directly? If it does at all, I
> don't think it possibly could long-term.
>
> Implementing DRM was very likely a bargaining chip with the major labels. It
> made them feel safer in the spooky waters of the pirate-infested internet.
> It also mandated that people buy individually from the store, curbing
> sharing and leaks and ensuring a swelling consumer base for Apple.
>
> Now that consumers swarm to the iTunes Store in droves, DRM doesn't really
> serve a purpose anymore.
>
> And it's only thanks to activism by groups like SFC and DBD that Apple is
> being lauded as a hero in the industry. We've been saying for years that DRM
> is evil, and that corporations should abandon it. They did what we wanted
> them to do. Why aren't we celebrating?
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Fred Benenson <fcb at fredbenenson.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to give Jobs more credit than he deserves, but I actually
>> think he hates dealing with the music industry and probably would not have
>> chosen DRM if they didn't force his hand initially. As far as I understand
>> it those were the conditions for iTunes even existing.
>>
>> Again, not calling him an hero, but I do think he understood at least the
>> practical (if not the ethical) objections to DRM in the store.
>>
>>
>> ~ ~ ~
>> thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog
>> work / http://creativecommons.org
>> sights / http://flickr.com/fcb
>> sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis
>> status / http://twitter.com/mecredis
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Clifford Conley Owens III <ccowens at vt.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Random rant on this discussion:
>>>
>>> Does anyone find it really annoying how everyone acts like this is Apple
>>> sticking it to the recording industry?  As though they couldn't have
>>> done this from the minute iTunes started?  Even Wired said: "Since the
>>> dawn of time, or so it seems, Steve Jobs and the major labels have been
>>> at war on two fronts: digital rights management and pricing. Apple wants
>>> to sell music without DRM, so that it's easier for consumers to use.
>>> Meanwhile, the labels want Jobs to budge on pricing to let them sell
>>> songs in iTunes at prices other than 99 cents."
>>>
>>> Remember that letter Jobs wrote about DRM.  Afterward, everyone acted
>>> like he was such a hero.  Give me a break.
>>> http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
>>>
>>> ~Conley
>>>
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