[FC-discuss] What really kills DRM in music?

[Dean Jansen]

The rawest thought in my head is that now I can legally fill my iPod  
for $6900, instead of $9900.

Jobs has done it again!

—Dean

On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Kevin Driscoll wrote:

> Yes! Sorry for trolling all of you but I really wanted to hear some
> raw thoughts on this. People on this list have been agitating against
> DRM for a long time (Def by Des, in particular! *)
>
> http://freeculturenews.com/2009/01/07/itunes-drops-drm/
>
> Tell us more specific events you know of. Let's make a big list of
> past anti-DRM activities.
>
> Kevin
>
> * Back in 06, I hung your images in my classroom and incorporated them
> into a lesson about digital music sales.
> http://flickr.com/photos/believekevin/259871655/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Conor Schaefer
> <conor.schaefer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree here. How does DRM benefit Apple directly? If it does at  
>> all, I
>> don't think it possibly could long-term.
>>
>> Implementing DRM was very likely a bargaining chip with the major  
>> labels. It
>> made them feel safer in the spooky waters of the pirate-infested  
>> internet.
>> It also mandated that people buy individually from the store, curbing
>> sharing and leaks and ensuring a swelling consumer base for Apple.
>>
>> Now that consumers swarm to the iTunes Store in droves, DRM doesn't  
>> really
>> serve a purpose anymore.
>>
>> And it's only thanks to activism by groups like SFC and DBD that  
>> Apple is
>> being lauded as a hero in the industry. We've been saying for years  
>> that DRM
>> is evil, and that corporations should abandon it. They did what we  
>> wanted
>> them to do. Why aren't we celebrating?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Fred Benenson  
>> <fcb at fredbenenson.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't want to give Jobs more credit than he deserves, but I  
>>> actually
>>> think he hates dealing with the music industry and probably would  
>>> not have
>>> chosen DRM if they didn't force his hand initially. As far as I  
>>> understand
>>> it those were the conditions for iTunes even existing.
>>>
>>> Again, not calling him an hero, but I do think he understood at  
>>> least the
>>> practical (if not the ethical) objections to DRM in the store.
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ ~ ~
>>> thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog
>>> work / http://creativecommons.org
>>> sights / http://flickr.com/fcb
>>> sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis
>>> status / http://twitter.com/mecredis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Clifford Conley Owens III <ccowens at vt.edu 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Random rant on this discussion:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone find it really annoying how everyone acts like this  
>>>> is Apple
>>>> sticking it to the recording industry?  As though they couldn't  
>>>> have
>>>> done this from the minute iTunes started?  Even Wired said:  
>>>> "Since the
>>>> dawn of time, or so it seems, Steve Jobs and the major labels  
>>>> have been
>>>> at war on two fronts: digital rights management and pricing.  
>>>> Apple wants
>>>> to sell music without DRM, so that it's easier for consumers to  
>>>> use.
>>>> Meanwhile, the labels want Jobs to budge on pricing to let them  
>>>> sell
>>>> songs in iTunes at prices other than 99 cents."
>>>>
>>>> Remember that letter Jobs wrote about DRM.  Afterward, everyone  
>>>> acted
>>>> like he was such a hero.  Give me a break.
>>>> http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
>>>>
>>>> ~Conley
>>>>
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