[FC-discuss] Yale switching to Google Apps / Gmail

[Ben Moskowitz]

Definitely, do you have any equipment?

We have dedicated streaming help, but could always use more tech and  
hands...

On Feb 10, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:

> Just did, plus signed up for volunteer mailing list. I'll be coming in
> Thursday night. What's the set-up schedule? Do you know if you need  
> any
> specific help, perhaps in broadcast/recording?
>
> - Matt
>
>> put it in!
>>
>> conference.freeculture.org/workshops
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
>>
>>> This is beginning to smell like a good workshop/discussion for the
>>> un-conference on Sunday. "Google Eating University Email Services,
>>> Many
>>> Concerned -- or -- Hard-pressed Institutions Saving a Buck with
>>> Google's
>>> Quality Email Service"
>>>
>>>> This seems to have a lot of answers...
>>>> It's a Google Q&A session with ASU:
>>>>
>>>> http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:P66bh5pCrl4J:vpiet.ucdavis.edu/students/UCD.Google.Meeting.Notes.01.24.07.doc+ferpa+gmail&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, we're writing an op-ed about this decision, but
>>>> focusing less
>>>> on (yet definitely mentioning) the potential issues, and more on
>>>> the lack
>>>> of
>>>> transparency behind this change.
>>>>
>>>> -Adi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Alec Story <avs38 at cornell.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Greg Grossmeier
>>>>> <greg at grossmeier.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "useful" web interface is up for debate regarding gmail: where
>>>>>> the EF
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> my threads? Do you know where in the thread I am replying right
>>>>>> now,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> to whom? Only because I quote correctly. </rant>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But seriously, I don't know of any modern university IT
>>>>>> department who
>>>>>> also doesn't have "tons of storage" along with IMAP and POP  
>>>>>> access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I can give you one that doesn't:  Cornell's in-house system
>>>>> (which
>>>>> is
>>>>> still running, I think, although they're trying to move everybody
>>>>> off of
>>>>> it)
>>>>> only offer something like 200 MB of storage, which is very easy to
>>>>> fill,
>>>>> even without trying to use email for storing much.  And the web
>>>>> interface we
>>>>> had before was a joke - it took six or seven clicks just to get to
>>>>> the
>>>>> most
>>>>> recent messages, messages weren't sorted by anything by default as
>>>>> far
>>>>> as I
>>>>> could tell, and even when you got them sorted by date, the most
>>>>> recent
>>>>> loaded at the bottom, and it took the server 1-2 minutes to send
>>>>> you the
>>>>> previous 100 or so messages on that page.  I used Evolution  
>>>>> because
>>>>> there
>>>>> was no other feasible way to read email, but I couldn't use it on
>>>>> library
>>>>> computers, and thunderbird portable is a hassle to bring
>>>>> everywhere with
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, from a usability standpoint, a lot of us here welcomed Google
>>>>> with
>>>>> open
>>>>> arms, but there's shockingly little thought about the privacy
>>>>> ramifications.  We tried to raise some awareness, but FCCornell is
>>>>> suffering
>>>>> from, er, acute member shortage.
>>>>>
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