There's something very compelling to be said about universities maintaining their autonomy, as well--there are definitely alarming similarities to that military recruitment clause embedded in the No Child Left Behind act. If we phrase this as student/university's rights vs. private interest of *AA, then I think we have a pretty compelling argument.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 10, 2008 3:25 PM, Gavin Baker <<a href="mailto:gavin@gavinbaker.com">gavin@gavinbaker.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br></div><div class="Ih2E3d">Matthew J. Agnello wrote:<br>|> I'm not at all trying to discourage organization and mobilization on<br>|> this issue, I'm just trying to carefully identify the factors I view as<br>
|> most problematic, so they can be dealt with. I'm glad this was brought<br>|> up here.<br>|<br></div><div class="Ih2E3d">| I tried explaining the problem to my mom. It's not an easy thing for<br>| adults to swallow. But they do identify with the prospect of losing<br>
| federal funding for something morally questionable.<br>|<br>| So there are a couple things that any campaign around this issue need to<br>| address: 1) Establish spying on students as morally questionable, 2)<br>| separate the p2p issue from piracy, and 3) tie refusal to spy to losing<br>
| federal funding.<br><br></div>I would think the easy way to explain this is, "Special interests want<br>Congress to force universities to spy on students and play copyright<br>cops, at risk of losing student aid. If a school didn't play along, the<br>
whole SCHOOL could lose financial aid, regardless of the individual<br>actions of the students."<br><br>Forget about explaining non-infringing uses blah blah.. Go for the gut.<br>That's exactly what this provision is designed to do, and we have to<br>
treat it that way.<br><br>Innocent students could lose their financial aid -- their ticket to a<br>good career and a better life. That's no way to run educational policy.<br><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>| If a university shows some moral integrity and refuses<br>
| to implement filtering/spying tech, they lose federal funding. These two<br>| have to be tied together as strongly as possible in people's minds. As a<br>| privacy issue and a piracy issue, it's questionable what to support. But<br>
| when passing this bill means a tuition hike, which means YOU are paying<br>| to catch a couple bad kids (MPAA stats are a lot lower than they used to<br>| be now)[1], people are more likely to look beyond the philosophical<br>
| question of privacy and piracy, which are weaker arguments than the<br>| government punishing universities that stick up for their students.<br>|<br>| Best,<br>| // Matt<br>|<br>| [1]<br><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080122-oops-mpaa-admits-college-piracy-numbers-grossly-inflated.html" target="_blank">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080122-oops-mpaa-admits-college-piracy-numbers-grossly-inflated.html</a><br>
|<br>|<br>| ----------<br>| *Matt Agnello*<br>| <a href="http://www.hungryfilmmaker.com" target="_blank">http://www.hungryfilmmaker.com</a><br></div>| < <a href="mailto:matt.agnello@gmail.com">matt.agnello@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matt.agnello@gmail.com">matt.agnello@gmail.com</a>> ><br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">|<br>|<br>|<br>| On Feb 10, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Conor Schaefer wrote:<br>|<br>|> I'm not at all trying to discourage organization and mobilization on<br>|> this issue, I'm just trying to carefully identify the factors I view as<br>
|> most problematic, so they can be dealt with. I'm glad this was brought<br>|> up here.<br>|<br>|<br></div><div class="Ih2E3d">| ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>|<br>
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