If we don't live in any of the Representatives' constituencies, what's the best course of action? Contact our <i>own</i> representative? Will that have much of an effect?<br clear="all">-Adi<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Nelson Pavlosky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nelson@freeculture.org">nelson@freeculture.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
According to the Alliance for Taxpayer Access, the first thing we<br>
should do is take action and contact our Representatives TODAY!<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/HR801-09-0211.html" target="_blank">http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/HR801-09-0211.html</a><br>
<br>
I'm honestly not sure why the deadline is today, but I'm sure there is<br>
a good reason related to the legislative process.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
~Nelson~<br>
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On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Adi Kamdar <<a href="mailto:adikamdar@gmail.com">adikamdar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I'm not too knowledgeable about how Congress works, but I do know that the<br>
> bill was only just introduced and has been referred to the House Committee<br>
> on the Judiciary.<br>
><br>
> Funny thing is that Conyers is the current chairman of the Head Committee on<br>
> the Judiciary. Hmm.<br>
><br>
> But basically the bill still has to go to Subcommittee (although, maybe not,<br>
> since it's IP related), the full Committee, then the Rules Committee, then<br>
> it's debated and voted on by the full House. etc. etc. (See: Schoolhouse<br>
> Rock)<br>
><br>
> Here's an article by James Boyle about this... worth a read/laugh.<br>
> <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a110fa6-0219-11de-8199-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1" target="_blank">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a110fa6-0219-11de-8199-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1</a><br>
><br>
> As far as action, letters seem to be a good start--both to Conyers and to<br>
> school newspapers. I... am not sure what else.<br>
> -Adi<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Kevin Donovan <<a href="mailto:kdonovan11@gmail.com">kdonovan11@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I don't know what that coordinated action would look like, but I do think<br>
>> it should have some sort of real-world manifestation - mass mailings to<br>
>> Conyers or something.<br>
>><br>
>> But before we do that, does anyone who understands how Congress works have<br>
>> info on where this bill stands?<br>
>><br>
>> From speaking with Georgetown's head of federal relations, it seems like<br>
>> this isn't that far along. But it would help to understand what choke points<br>
>> we should target...<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Elizabeth Stark <<a href="mailto:emstark@gmail.com">emstark@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Definitely. I'm also thinking of some kind of coordinated action across<br>
>>> FC chapters, and/or site to coordinate action across the web. What else is<br>
>>> out there so far?<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Kevin Donovan <<a href="mailto:kdonovan11@gmail.com">kdonovan11@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> A very easy thing to do is inform other university community members<br>
>>>> about this. I wrote an OpEd for the Georgetown newspaper. Feel free to<br>
>>>> re-appropriate it: <a href="http://thehoya.com/node/18112" target="_blank">http://thehoya.com/node/18112</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> And get in touch with the librarians. They are great on this issue.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Gavin Baker <<a href="mailto:gavin@gavinbaker.com">gavin@gavinbaker.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The place to start for ideas:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://www.righttoresearch.org/" target="_blank">http://www.righttoresearch.org/</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Brian Rowe wrote:<br>
>>>>> > This would be a large step backwards for OA. I am in for what ever<br>
>>>>> > we<br>
>>>>> > want to do.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Here is a little more info on the finicing of the bill from Nathan<br>
>>>>> > Georgette's Open Access Blog<br>
>>>>> > <<a href="http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/following-money-on-hr801.html" target="_blank">http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/following-money-on-hr801.html</a>> :<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Two days ago, I issued an urgent call to action<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > <<a href="http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/stand-for-open-access-oppose-hr801.html" target="_blank">http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/stand-for-open-access-oppose-hr801.html</a>><br>
>>>>> > concerning HR801, re-introduced by Congressional Representative<br>
>>>>> > John<br>
>>>>> > Conyers (D-MI), which would essentially reverse the NIH Open<br>
>>>>> > Access<br>
>>>>> > policy. I have much respect for Representative Conyers,<br>
>>>>> > especially<br>
>>>>> > on his health care policies. Thus, I was greatly disturbed upon<br>
>>>>> > hearing of this development.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > I wanted to know why Conyers would do such a thing, and began<br>
>>>>> > investigating the money trail on Conyers' campaign contributions<br>
>>>>> > (thanks Alex for the idea!). What I came upon sank my heart.<br>
>>>>> > According to Open Secrets<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > <<a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004029" target="_blank">http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004029</a>>,<br>
>>>>> > Conyers' third single largest campaign contributor in 2008 was<br>
>>>>> > the<br>
>>>>> > American Intellectual Property Law Association<br>
>>>>> > <<a href="http://www.aipla.org/" target="_blank">http://www.aipla.org/</a>> (AIPLA), whose "Key Bills of the 111th<br>
>>>>> > Congress<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > <<a href="http://www.aipla.org/Content/NavigationMenu/IP_Issues_and_Advocacy/Legislation1/111th_Congress/Key_Bills_of_the_111th/Key_Bills_of_the_111th.htm" target="_blank">http://www.aipla.org/Content/NavigationMenu/IP_Issues_and_Advocacy/Legislation1/111th_Congress/Key_Bills_of_the_111th/Key_Bills_of_the_111th.htm</a>>"<br>
>>>>> > include HR801. Surprised? Shouldn't be. Money talks, and big<br>
>>>>> > money<br>
>>>>> > talks that much louder.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > I joined the AIPLA last year as a student and was very unimpressed<br>
>>>>> > they<br>
>>>>> > are on the ultra protectionist side of IP, I choose not to renew the<br>
>>>>> > membership this year. They have been recruiting students and<br>
>>>>> > professor<br>
>>>>> > rather heavily over the last few years I am curious if we have any<br>
>>>>> > active members of the AIPLA that are willing to speak out.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > -Brian Rowe<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Elizabeth Stark <<a href="mailto:emstark@gmail.com">emstark@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:emstark@gmail.com">emstark@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > I think we can do something kind of big here. Barbie in a Blender<br>
>>>>> > style..<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Gavin Baker<br>
>>>>> > <<a href="mailto:gavin@gavinbaker.com">gavin@gavinbaker.com</a><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:gavin@gavinbaker.com">gavin@gavinbaker.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Yes, please get involved :)<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Need any help, holla at me!<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Elizabeth Stark wrote:<br>
>>>>> > > There's a great opportunity for us to get involved in<br>
>>>>> > activism<br>
>>>>> > against<br>
>>>>> > > this bill, especially involving chapters. Ideas for how we<br>
>>>>> > can<br>
>>>>> > best do<br>
>>>>> > > this?<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > > I know Change Congress is looking to target it as well.<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Rob Myers<br>
>>>>> > <<a href="mailto:rob@robmyers.org">rob@robmyers.org</a><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:rob@robmyers.org">rob@robmyers.org</a>><br>
>>>>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:rob@robmyers.org">rob@robmyers.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rob@robmyers.org">rob@robmyers.org</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/16/scientific-publisher.html" target="_blank">http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/16/scientific-publisher.html</a><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > > "Steve sez, "Currently, the National Institutes of<br>
>>>>> > Health<br>
>>>>> > require<br>
>>>>> > > NIH-funded research to be published in open-access<br>
>>>>> > repositories. In a<br>
>>>>> > > cop to for-profit science publishers, Congressional<br>
>>>>> > Representative<br>
>>>>> > > John Conyers (D-MI) has re-introduced a bill (HR801)<br>
>>>>> > that<br>
>>>>> > essentially<br>
>>>>> > > would negate the NIH policy concerning depositing<br>
>>>>> > research<br>
>>>>> > in OA<br>
>>>>> > > repositories. The bill goes further than prohibiting<br>
>>>>> > open<br>
>>>>> > access<br>
>>>>> > > requirements, however, as the bill also prohibits<br>
>>>>> > government agencies<br>
>>>>> > > from obtaining a license to publicly distribute,<br>
>>>>> > perform,<br>
>>>>> > or display<br>
>>>>> > > such work by, for example, placing it on the Internet,<br>
>>>>> > and<br>
>>>>> > would<br>
>>>>> > > repeal the longstanding 'federal purpose' doctrine,<br>
>>>>> > under<br>
>>>>> > which all<br>
>>>>> > > federal agencies that fund the creation of a<br>
>>>>> > copyrighted<br>
>>>>> > work reserve<br>
>>>>> > > the 'royalty-free, nonexclusive right to reproduce,<br>
>>>>> > publish, or<br>
>>>>> > > otherwise use the work' for any federal purpose. The<br>
>>>>> > bill<br>
>>>>> > is bad<br>
>>>>> > > news." "<br>
>>>>> > > _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> > > Discuss mailing list<br>
>>>>> > > <a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a>><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a>>><br>
>>>>> > > <a href="http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > > _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> > > Discuss mailing list<br>
>>>>> > > <a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a>><br>
>>>>> > > <a href="http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > --<br>
>>>>> > Gavin Baker<br>
>>>>> > <a href="http://www.gavinbaker.com/" target="_blank">http://www.gavinbaker.com/</a><br>
>>>>> > <a href="mailto:gavin@gavinbaker.com">gavin@gavinbaker.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gavin@gavinbaker.com">gavin@gavinbaker.com</a>><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > No, I do not weep at the world -- I am too busy sharpening my<br>
>>>>> > oyster knife.<br>
>>>>> > Zora Neale Hurston<br>
>>>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>> > <a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Discuss@freeculture.org">Discuss@freeculture.org</a>><br>
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>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > --<br>
>>>>> > Brian Rowe<br>
>>>>> > 3L Seattle University<br>
>>>>> > (206) 335-8577 (Cell)<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Access To Justice Technology Principles<br>
>>>>> > <a href="http://www.ATJWeb.org" target="_blank">www.ATJWeb.org</a> <<a href="http://www.ATJWeb.org" target="_blank">http://www.ATJWeb.org</a>><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Freedom for IP<br>
>>>>> > <a href="http://www.FreedomforIP.org" target="_blank">www.FreedomforIP.org</a> <<a href="http://www.FreedomforIP.org" target="_blank">http://www.FreedomforIP.org</a>><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Seattle Human Rights Network<br>
>>>>> > <a href="http://www.SeattleHumanRightsNetwork.org" target="_blank">www.SeattleHumanRightsNetwork.org</a><br>
>>>>> > <<a href="http://www.SeattleHumanRightsNetwork.org" target="_blank">http://www.SeattleHumanRightsNetwork.org</a>><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>> ><br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Gavin Baker<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://www.gavinbaker.com/" target="_blank">http://www.gavinbaker.com/</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:gavin@gavinbaker.com">gavin@gavinbaker.com</a><br>
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>>>><br>
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>>>> Kevin Donovan<br>
>>>> Georgetown '11: SFS<br>
>>>> 630.849.8285<br>
>>>><br>
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