<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Yes, I think the overall tone of this list is meant to be encouraging but open to dissent while not being hostile to it. </div><div><br></div><div>Starting threads with "You are wrong." is precisely the way to encourage incivility and hostility and I really don't see the need for it. There are plenty of ways to voice your disagreement, Matt, but this kind of antagonist tone combined with needlesdly repetitive corrections have been pointed out to me by many activists as discouraging and counter poductive.</div><div><br></div><div>I know you don't feel this way, but it's becoming clear that more than a handful of other people do.</div><div><br></div><div>I am not asking for you to leave the list, but I kindly request that you put a little more thought (along the lines of what Elizabeth mentioned) into your correspondence with our community.</div><div><br></div><div>Respectfully,</div><div><br></div><div>Fred</div><div><br>On Apr 5, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Elizabeth Stark <<a href="mailto:emstark@gmail.com">emstark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Guys, please, let's keep this list civil. Frankly, Matt, I do think it's rather offensive to continually send corrections to people on-list implicating your view about particular free software naming conventions. I think once is enough, and we got the point.<div>
<br></div><div>I also think we need to understand that not everyone on this list is as well-versed in all of the relevant issues, and we should be welcoming, not alienating to such newcomers to the movement. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Matt Lee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattl@cnuk.org"><a href="mailto:mattl@cnuk.org">mattl@cnuk.org</a></a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
If you feel that talking about GNU/Linux in public is trolling, I feel<br>
pretty sorry for you.<br>
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I would invite you to consider how misinformation can hurt projects like<br>
the GNU project.<br>
<br>
Accusing people in public of trolling, because they post accurate and<br>
timely responses to misunderstandings and potentially damaging<br>
information about the GNU project is both bad form, and stupid.<br>
<br>
I would invite you to review the website of the GNU project, and<br>
verbosely reply to this thread pointing out where I have made mistakes<br>
in the things I said about Linux and its relationship to the GNU OS.<br>
<br>
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