Interesting response Asheesh. I definitely wouldn't agree that disorder is a strength, but that might be because I have a different definition of disorder. In my opinion the protocols (technical or social) imposes a definite order to decentralized networks and communities. True disorder is pure randomness, no?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Asheesh Laroia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:freeculture@asheesh.org">freeculture@asheesh.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Ben Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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I don't agree that this question is flamebait-y, or that it shows a lack of clear thinking. It's perfectly consistent with lots of research on self-organization and distributed communities. See Shirky and especially Weinberger.<br>
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The sense in which, I guess, I considered it flamebait was it seemed to ask a "Is disorder a strength?" question -- to which we all agree, the answer is "Yes."<br>
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A nuanced question seeking examples of when disorder has not worked, and when it has -- that would be more interesting. And that's what the body asked; I mostly took offense at the subject line.<br>
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The other flamebait aspect was the conflation of "illegal" and "disorganized". I don't think groups like soup kitchens, which aren't always the most well-disciplined bunch, would enjoy being glossed quickly with groups that are "illegal."<br>
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Pedantically yours,<br>
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