[islandlabs] hacker space

John Abella john at abella.net
Tue Aug 16 21:04:52 UTC 2011


Pics from the first balloon launch, for the curious:

Prep:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/jabella/sets/72157623426810883/

Launch Process:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jabella/sets/72157623575941052/

>From the balloon:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jabella/sets/72157623451101581/


John A.



On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Helio Takai <takai at bnl.gov> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Nice, I'd be interested to learn more about the balloon launch.
>
> Cloud chambers - We built several, from fish tanks, to peltier cooled, and
> petri dishes.
> I have few of the petri dishes left in kit form.
>
> As far as FM radio, the one I have been thinking is this
>
> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10344
>
> There is a interferometer that was setup to map the lower part of the
> ionosphere (I think) :
>
> http://rrsl.ee.washington.edu/Projects/Manastash/
>
> But I have not a good feel for how it would work. In the past we used
> analog TV stations that
> are not around anymore.
>
> Cheers
>
> Helio
>
>
>
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Burns, William wrote:
>
> > Helio:
> >
> > If the website was up, you'd be able to see some of our high-altitude
> pictures.
> > We followed the MIT/Icarus model and got good results on our first
> launch.
> > We're now trying to get a good launch weekend for our APRS-enabled
> payload w/ arduino-controlled cameras.
> >
> > We tried a few cloud-chamber variants. Got a petri-dish version
> operating, but only once.
> > I'd be interested in finding a better (more reliable) setup.
> >
> > We've been daydreaming about building our own (cheap) radio/transmitter
> from handwound inductors, etc. (as a replacement for the $70 handheld radio
> in our current payload)
> >
> > There was one guy who showed-up at LILUG
> > http://www.lilug.org
> > with a demo of his computer-tuned HAM radios.
> > (he wrote the application that did the tuning, and he streamed audio over
> the internet for his demo)
> > He might be reachable on their mailing lists.
> >
> > What kind of receiver would you be controlling with an arduino?
> > Would you be tuning the radio, or using it to process audio output?
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Helio Takai [mailto:takai at bnl.gov]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:38 AM
> >> To: Burns, William
> >> Cc: 'Island Labs main mailing list'
> >> Subject: Re: hacker space
> >>
> >> Hi Bill,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your reply and very interesting links.
> >>
> >> Apropos ICON, I have been doing demos at ICON in the past 3-4
> >> years. It is called "The Physics Demonstration Show". Yes it
> >> is lame...  I have built many cloud chambers and have two
> >> that I take to schools and other places. They work really
> >> well, so I can help you there.
> >>
> >> Weather balloon - do you mean taking pictures at high
> >> altitudes? I have done one flight with students and it is
> >> pretty cool.
> >>
> >> I have seen Krishnan demos at ICON. I do demo shows at
> >> several places but mostly in physics, though it does include
> >> a bit of liquid nitrogen, dry ice, but I stay away from
> >> explosions and loud noise. Mostly explaining about light, IR
> >> light, etc...
> >>
> >> I work primarily as a particle physicist in the ATLAS
> >> experiment at CERN. I also have another activity which is to
> >> develop a radar for the detection of ultra high energy cosmic
> >> rays. The latter involves a lot of teachers and students. The
> >> radar is a parasitic forward scattering radar that can also
> >> detect meteors. This is one place I am interested in using
> >> Arduino, i.e. to control an inexpensive FM receiver. Meteors
> >> seem interesting as it can probe the ozone layer at very high
> >> altitudes.
> >>
> >> I wrote down the 17th on my calendar. If I am available I
> >> will stop by at your meeting at Farmindale.
> >>
> >> Thank you again for your email and lets stay in touch. I am
> >> very interested in what you are doing, and it seems that we
> >> have a lot of parallel effort going on.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Helio
> >>
> >> On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Burns, William wrote:
> >>
> >>> Helio:
> >>>
> >>> Sorry about the website being down.
> >>>
> >>> The turnout at Island Labs meetings has been low lately,
> >> but we've been meeting every wednesday at 8:00pm on
> >> Farmingdale Campus: Whitman building, room 251.
> >>> http://www.farmingdale.edu/quicklinks/IFS_Map_of_Campus.html
> >>> The next meeting is the 17th.
> >>> "Please note that there is construction taking place on
> >> campus. You'll have to stop at the public-safety office to
> >> announce that you're on campus for a meeting, and that you'll
> >> need a parking pass."
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what you know about Island Labs already...
> >>>
> >>> Weather ballooning is our one big/active project right now.
> >>> We've done 2 weather-ballooning presentations for a private school.
> >>>
> >>> We like arduinos.
> >>> http://www.arduinoeducation.com/
> >>> http://electronics.flosscience.com/
> >>> So do the people at this (more active) hackerspace:
> >>> http://www.nycresistor.com/
> >>>
> >>> We're also doing HAM radio training which (depending on
> >> who's at the meeting) could take most of our meeting time.
> >>>
> >>> re:
> >>> Science demonstrations:
> >>> Recently at I-Con, we did a "kitchen science" demo
> >> including a fire tornado, a pulsejet engine, an electrically
> >> illuminated pickle, and *almost* got a cloud chamber working.
> >>>
> >>> I'd be glad to share details of any/all of these projects with you.
> >>> There's a lot of information on youtube as well.
> >>>
> >>> Are you familiar with Dr. C. V. Krishnan of Stony Brook?
> >>> http://www.iconsf.org/archive/icon23/sci_tech_chem_magic.htm
> >>> As I recall he charged about $200 for expendable supplies,
> >> but his show was amazing.
> >>> Unfortunately, he's no longer doing his chemistry magic
> >> show at I-Con, but he may be willing to talk to an educator
> >> like yourself since promoting an interest in science was a
> >> big focus of his.
> >>>
> >>> "chemistry magic show" is a great search phrase on youtube,
> >> by-the-way.
> >>> So is "Steve Spangler science".
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=steve+spangler+science
> >>>
> >>> I'd recommend attending Maker Faire NYC.
> >>> http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2011/
> >>> It'll be held September 17th+18th at the New York Hall of
> >> Science, which is an interesting place by itself.
> >>> I could easily spend 2 full days there.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if you think you'd like to do a demo of
> >> your own at I-Con, or if there's a topic you'd be interested
> >> in speaking about.
> >>> I'm sure the crowd there would appreciate an update on
> >> activities at BNL.
> >>>
> >>> -Bill
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Helio Takai
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:34 PM
> >>>> To: Burns, William
> >>>> Subject: hacker space
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> I heard about hacker spaces through a friend of mine and I am
> >>>> interested to learn more about it. I went to the web site,
> >>>> islandlabs.org but it is not working.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, I am a physicist from Brookhaven Labs, and work
> >> with a lot of
> >>>> local high schools. We are always interested in science
> >> projects that
> >>>> can be developed inexpensively but still gives good scientific
> >>>> results. So I would be interested to learn more about  your
> >>>> activities.
> >>>>
> >>>> Helio
> >>>>
> >>>> Helio Takai
> >>>> Physics Department, bldg 510A
> >>>> Brookhaven National Laboratory
> >>
>
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